I got to sit down and talk with John Hawkins of 9seeds for his new show Hawk Talk Podcast. We discussed a bunch of stuff in the 45 minutes we talked (I think we pushed in about 2 hours of content in that 45 mins, crazy!)

We discussed my history of podcasting, web development and working at a church as their IT manager. I had an awesome time talking with him and I hope you enjoy listening to it. Listen to this episode here!

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